No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary

Barack Obama did not "snub" Hillary Rodham Clinton last night at the SOTU.  

Obama campaign chief David Axelrod explains:


"I don't think he snubbed her at all. First of all, they acknowledged each other as they entered the chamber. But I think he knew that Sen. Kennedy and Sen. Clinton were friends. This was obviously an awkward day from that standpoint, and I don't think he wanted to stand there while Sen. Kennedy was greeting Sen. Clinton. And I think that was an appropriate sentiment.

"Unfortunately, the camera caught it in a different way, and so it got interpreted that way. And that's the kind of environment we're in right now. It's a very competitive race, so every little thing is going to be interpreted in that way. But it was really, I think, a matter of letting Sen. Kennedy have his own conversation, his own greeting with Sen. Clinton without him hovering over them. ...

"I think it's understandable that he would not want to stand there with Sen. Kennedy as if he were lording it over her."

I know that some might want to take one picture, soundbite, etc, out of context to help their candidate out, but I think we should keep our discussion on a higher plane. Let's talk about the issues.


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No amount of spinning will eraze it. (none / 0)

I was in my barbers shop this morning and it was referred to on the TV burbling in background. A couple of the patrons chimed in. This has been noticed.


by ottovbvs on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:36:28 PM EST

Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

You may be right, but perception is reality in voters' minds.  So, unfortunately, it doesn't really matter what his real intentions were.


by ejintx on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:36:56 PM EST

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David Axelrod makes excuses for Obama and it must be true!


by hwc on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:37:17 PM EST

Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

Axelrod's words prove that Obama indeed DID snub Hillary and that Obama lied today about this incident.

Duh!


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:38:01 PM EST

Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

AHHHHHH it's the old "What Obama Meant" story.  I've seen this movie before!

Seriously, if Mark Penn goes on TV and tries to spin something Hillary did, does that make it the gospel truth?  Are we expected to believe that if Obama really did snub Hillary, Axelrod would say so?


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:38:46 PM EST

Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

It seems like a perfectly reasonable explanation.


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:43:59 PM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

Are you open to the possibility that it might not be true?


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:48:59 PM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

The discussion of this "issue" has been very one sided on this site, so I am presenting the other side.  


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:54:34 PM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

This diary doesn't claim to be the other side.  It claims to be presenting the gospel truth.  "No, Obama didn't snub Hillary."

I think most people will prefer to go with their own eyes and the contemporaneous reaction of the journalists who saw it as "childish."  I asked my question only to find out how deeply committed to partisanship you are.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:01:10 PM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

I'm an Edwards supporter but this Obama stuff is as idiotic as coverage of Gore's sighs in the presidential debate...  


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:05:09 PM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

This is politics, not a debating society.  When my wife saw the picture this morning she was absolutely livid.

Axelrod wouldn't be out there presenting a different story if this were something that didn't matter.

Everyone always wants to "talk about the issues" except when it's the other side which has stepped in it politically.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:25:33 PM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

How did He snub her if she wasn't looking to shake his hand?


A PROUD Hopium user!
by xodus1914 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 03:26:53 PM EST
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of course he snubbed her (none / 0)

and the reason people believe it is because it is not the first time he displayed this sort of cloddish behavior.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:06:53 PM EST
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Re: of course he snubbed her (none / 0)

Considering that you link to white supremacist websites to support your Obama smears, you don't bring a lot of credibility to the table in this discussion.  


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:10:17 PM EST
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lol (none / 0)


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:09:00 PM EST
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Who gives a f*** (none / 0)

Even if he did snub her - its his right to snub her.

Why is this an issue - it is not an issue.  You all need better things to talk about.


Listening comes first
by Moonwood on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 01:55:22 PM EST

Re: Who gives a f*** (none / 0)

Great point.  


Go back to Hussein Texas
by gobacktotexas on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:05:52 PM EST
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Re: Who gives a f*** (none / 0)

sure and it is our right to judge him to be a graceless clod.


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:09:54 PM EST
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You must be young (none / 0)

all your concern about maturity.  You'll grow up - its okay.


Listening comes first
by Moonwood on Wed Jan 30, 2008 at 10:28:45 AM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

no no no, Axelrod didn't get the right memo, lol, check with O for the right reason before the spin, k?


by Jerome Armstrong on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:20:16 PM EST

Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)

What was Obama's explanation?


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 02:26:20 PM EST
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Re: No, Obama Didn't Snub Hillary (none / 0)


"This was obviously an awkward day from that standpoint, and I don't think he wanted to stand there while Sen. Kennedy was greeting Sen. Clinton. And I think that was an appropriate sentiment."

"Appropriate"? What is this, middle school? (Actually, this type of behavior isn't even appropriate in middle school....) He secures the endorsement of one of her friends (David said it, not me) (something I don't begrudge at all, this is politics, after all) but then he can't bring himself to face her because it's "awkward"?

Give me a break.


Blogging politics and life in general at jimmy.bouma-holtrop.com
by forecaster15 on Tue Jan 29, 2008 at 04:34:29 PM EST


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